efete1 0 Report post Posted June 9, 2012 SO: ethical question: have a house I had as a LO. Owner was getting desparate to get filled so we found a tenant and just signed her up (she signed her lease and gave us deposit); the next day we find a tenant/buyer. Assuming he is good to go, do we take him and tell the tenant we have to cancel? The owner does want to sell the house (that was his intention) so I am going to discuss with him and have him decide as well. Thanks for any input! Have a good weekend all! Eric Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelC 160 Report post Posted June 9, 2012 Quite the conundrum, my frazzled friend. My first question is whether or not you even have the luxury of breaking the signed lease with the tenant? Signed lease, deposit. Sounds like a deal to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikOk 10 Report post Posted June 9, 2012 SO: ethical question: have a house I had as a LO. Owner was getting desparate to get filled so we found a tenant and just signed her up (she signed her lease and gave us deposit); the next day we find a tenant/buyer. Assuming he is good to go, do we take him and tell the tenant we have to cancel? The owner does want to sell the house (that was his intention) so I am going to discuss with him and have him decide as well. Thanks for any input! Have a good weekend all! Eric Unless the tenant is set on living there (really likes it), and assuming the tenant-buyer has a good chunk for option money, maybe you can offer to pay all or a portion of the tenants rent in another rental (assuming they haven't moved out yet) and maybe for a moving truck if in-town. I guess it might not hurt to explain the fact that the homeowner is really wanting to sell, but hopefully the rent/moving "bribe" will help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot76180 51 Report post Posted June 10, 2012 MC is right...you break that lease and it may very well come back to bite you, all so you can make a little extra $$. It sucks, but if you have the deposit AND the docs signed, it's a done deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelC 160 Report post Posted June 10, 2012 MC is right...you break that lease and it may very well come back to bite you, all so you can make a little extra $$.It sucks, but if you have the deposit AND the docs signed, it's a done deal.Wow. John Jackson talking ethics. What's next? Lindsay Lohan preaching sobriety? What a crazy, mixed up world we live in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot76180 51 Report post Posted June 11, 2012 Screw ethics...I just didn't want to see Eric get yelled at.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTI 7 Report post Posted June 13, 2012 If you really wanted to be ethical you would have offered the renter the money you were going to make and also give the owner what he wants, but i don't find that many ethical investors in this as long as I get mine world everything is OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djbusch 2 Report post Posted June 24, 2012 If you really wanted to be ethical you would have offered the renter the money you were going to make and also give the owner what he wants, but i don't find that many ethical investors in this as long as I get mine world everything is OK. I'm curious...what would be so ethical about giving your profit to the renter? What did he/she do to earn it? Apply for a rental? Put down a deposit? People do that every day, and none of them are rewarded with thousands of Dollars. Forgive me if I'm getting this wrong, but handing your profit in the deal to the renter being "wronged" (while they haven't even moved in yet) doesn't sound ethical, it sounds foolish. You can offer them incentive to break the lease or you can just honor the lease at the expense of the purchase deal. It's perfectly ethical either way. Just my $0.02, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pilot76180 51 Report post Posted June 25, 2012 Here's another take...tell the renters..."It looks like it's going to be a few days to get the last bodies out of the back yard, but I think they are going to resod the backyard anyway.......you all know it's on an Indian burial ground..right?"They back out...you go to your LO peeps...BAM!!! Living life like J.D. (Jake Duvall) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelC 160 Report post Posted June 25, 2012 Here's another take...tell the renters..."It looks like it's going to be a few days to get the last bodies out of the back yard, but I think they are going to resod the backyard anyway.......you all know it's on an Indian burial ground..right?"They back out...you go to your LO peeps...BAM!!! Living life like J.D. (Jake Duvall)Creative real estate at its finest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BTI 7 Report post Posted June 27, 2012 David Spoken like a man who thinks with his wallet. I learned most of my ethics from my grandfather where a man's word was his bond, rare in this world today but it was still alive when I was involved in million dollar deals with Arizona Ranchers, their word was gold and they would step out of the way when it was the honorable thing to do. Never met such a group of honorable people. Other words, do things right and make things right. Full disclosure and and no unearned rewards at some one else's expense.. The way I see it is the first tenant made a deal and intended to keep it, but along comes a TB with option money and the word to the first tenant is just a problem to be taken care of. Yes you can make the noble excuse the seller can get what they really wanted, but the truth is the option money is the real factor, just because there is a TB doesn't mean there is a sale, and at this point the only one with any honor is the first tenant. And shame on your ethics for trying to rationalize any thing else. He earned it, BS, he is just hoping to screw someone for the dollars, and if that is not true then he should be willing to give up the dollars.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
<Steve> 82 Report post Posted June 27, 2012 So Eric, what was the result with this dilema? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MichaelC 160 Report post Posted June 27, 2012 So Eric, what was the result with this dilema?He can't reply, Steve. There are no computers in prison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ErikOk 10 Report post Posted June 27, 2012 Let's all face it, Eric is just a bad person Let's have a public caning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
<Steve> 82 Report post Posted June 28, 2012 This may require a call into the Attorney General, Eric Holder; but-then-again, those Erics stick together. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites